Shuki Aharonovich | Takhles: How Is Product Management Different at an Early-Stage Company? - Product Builder Podcast episode with Eyal David
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Shuki Aharonovich | Takhles: How Is Product Management Different at an Early-Stage Company?

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According to Shuki Aharonovich, the first product manager at Cinch, the first thing that sets early-stage product management apart is that you're there to build a company, not just a product. On the defensive side, a sales organization that promises customers everything creates debt that turns the product into 700 modules and the company into a services company. On the offensive side, bringing a product lens to the sales process grows the product manager's value and autonomy.

In this episode

  • At early stage you come to build a company, not just a product: a product manager who doesn't think that way misses out and creates difficulties for themselves later.
  • A sales organization that doesn't think product-wise and promises customers everything creates debt: a confused product with 700 ultra-customizable modules, and a company that turns into a services company.
  • The offensive side: bringing a product lens to the sales process is an opportunity to have influence and grow your value and autonomy as a product manager.
  • Product managers' frustrations are similar at a small startup, a mid-size company and a corporate: friction with the CEO, the VP Sales, R&D or the team lead. Only the titles change.

Episode Description

A short clip from the full conversation with Shuki Aharonovich. At a meetup for early-stage product managers organized by Symbol and led by Matan Gottlieb, Shuki noticed that product managers' frustrations are the same at every company stage, just with different titles: friction with the CEO, the VP Sales and R&D. That led him to distill three bullets for the right early-stage mindset, and this clip focuses on the first: you're here to build a company, not to build a product. On the defensive side, a sales organization that promises everything creates debt that lands on you later; on the offensive side, it's an opportunity to have influence and bring product thinking to the sales process.

Chapters

  1. 0:00 · The background and bullet one: build a company, not just a product
  2. 2:32 · The offensive side: a product lens on sales
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Full transcript with speakers and timestamps

Selected quotes

“The first bullet is about: you're here to build a company and not to build a product.”
— Shuki Aharonovich
“The conversations or the frustrations are the same conversations and frustrations.”
— Shuki Aharonovich
“On the offensive side of it, you're missing the opportunity here to have influence, to have influence, yes, to increase your value and your autonomy.”
— Shuki Aharonovich

Questions & answers

What's different about product management at an early-stage company?

According to Shuki Aharonovich, the first of three bullets is that you're here to build a company, not just a product. Your responsibility as a product manager goes beyond the product itself and touches the organization, for example the sales process.

Why should an early-stage PM get involved in sales?

Because a sales organization that doesn't think product-wise and promises customers every single thing creates debt: a confused product with 700 modules for each customer, and the company becomes a services company. On the other hand, a product lens on the sales process grows the product manager's influence, value and autonomy.

Are product managers' struggles different at a startup and at a corporate?

From what Shuki heard at a meetup for early-stage product managers, the conversations and frustrations are almost identical at every stage: friction with the CEO, the VP Sales, R&D or the team lead. What changes is the titles, so the interesting question is what the right mindset is for each stage.

People & resources mentioned

People

  • Shuki Aharonovich
  • Matan Gottlieb

Companies & orgs

  • Cinch
  • Symbol — VC that invests in Cinch
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